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- 1 ：7分74秒：2018/05/03(木) 00:11:03.09 ID:mqvz0BHu.net
- さあ語ろう❗
- 216 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:33:51.81 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 217 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:34:00.71 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 218 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:34:08.56 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 219 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:34:18.04 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 220 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:34:25.15 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 221 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:34:32.13 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 222 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:34:38.94 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 223 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:34:47.01 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 224 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:34:54.83 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 225 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:35:03.05 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 226 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:35:10.95 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 227 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:35:18.65 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 228 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:35:27.10 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 229 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:35:34.83 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 230 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:35:42.24 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 231 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:35:58.01 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 232 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:36:07.33 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 233 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:36:16.77 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 234 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:36:28.07 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 235 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:36:36.27 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 236 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:36:57.44 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 237 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:37:05.24 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 238 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:37:13.82 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 239 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:37:23.28 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 240 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:37:31.51 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 241 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:37:39.04 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 242 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:37:46.04 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 243 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:37:54.36 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 244 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:38:02.21 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 245 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:38:17.93 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 246 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:38:33.95 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 247 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:38:43.37 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 248 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:38:52.29 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 249 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:39:00.77 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 250 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:39:10.66 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 251 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:39:19.82 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 252 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:39:29.02 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 253 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:39:37.74 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 254 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:39:47.73 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 255 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:39:57.08 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 256 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:40:06.03 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 257 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:40:25.63 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 258 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:40:36.00 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 259 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:40:45.18 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 260 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:40:54.95 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 261 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:41:04.76 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 262 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:41:15.61 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 263 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:41:24.92 ID:i/183XkE.net
- 「観念論者たるブーレーズの極めて峻烈な音楽美学」
ピエール・ブーレーズによる作曲家、音楽学者であるセレスタン・ドリエージュとの1970年代の対話です。
前衛音楽の闘士らしく、そこで開陳される音楽論、音楽美学は極めて峻烈なもので、
観念論者たるブーレーズの音楽観の一端をうかがい知ることができます。
音楽における「構造」の存在の重要性を何より主張するブーレーズによる“note”と“composition”の違いへの言及から、
各時代による音楽の様式の変化、果ては民族音楽まで、広い音楽知識と卓抜した音楽理解力が全て氏の強烈な個性のもとに焼き尽くされ、
昇華されて、彼から流れ出す深い音楽に対する洞察の数々が読むものを酔いしれさせます。
私の音楽の美学的な面において最も影響を与えた書です。
- 264 ：7分74秒：2018/07/07(土) 08:41:35.03 ID:r8fh7lWJ.net
- (Friday) Tamae 20:26 Tokioka on the ID:uraCrKnu 38 2007 January 06,
year.
> M.F .
Remark..only..plug..Mattick..deceive..hate..thing..agree..especially..opinion..
sincere..answer..exaggerated..sincerely..thank.Sarcastically though it is great if
it is possible to hold … ..no receipt..
M.F ..still.. at the same time . It was taught that no big hurdle, and reflected on the
problem in the receipt and the interpretation model rather than Boulez. It especially
points out concerning "Deliberate examination of the fact", and it has a pain in the ear
truly. As for me, the musicology related to a fan of 'Useless cantabile', a surface fan of
Emanuel Paryu and Keras, and Boulez is unbridgeable gulf, and if it is not possible to
find an answer to a question there, thinks that the doubt of this 'Uselessness' = banal
classic fan and BPO Maniarevel cannot be at least opposite straight with Domesticcrevel,
too so why terrifically though is a painful topic putting only one in the ear.
(The situation thinks that it doesn't change as long as this 'Uselessness' even is
Revelapped to Celibidache and Arnoncul. )
… There is no objection at all if said, "Only it is a self-responsibility" of course.
Of course, saying, "Do not become an answer" gets an important suggestion for modesty.
Live..electronics..agreement..hardly..so far..viewpoint..explanation..situation..
continue..only..rhetoric..explanation..protest..rather..spectrum..easy..sect..
generation..turn.It will be able to be understood that Penser la musique aujourd 'hui
etc. are very limit selection = Tacra in the respect to some degree and descends.
I was going to do sooner or later, and to receive the question "When does securable
become at time that Boulez makes it (Enlightenment of the lecture etc. … This word is
appropriate or apart from) a character?" in the sentiment mixing as a very existing
problem. Thank you.
Boulez..Japan..Boulez..music..speech..situation..have..dissatisfied..chiefly..at
least..in general..wide..circulate..one..for..a little..pedantically..level..
discussion..a lot..score..substantial..content..depress..one..hardly..provide..
thing..understand.
Certainly, a theoretical description is hardly seen in Boulez's writing since a
certain time. This is personally one of the big dissatisfaction though three works
that use the live electronics cannot buy even the score. Peel..after this..say..
almost all..for instance..include.
However, if the memory is correct (Though it is not because of looking at me
and having heard it), Boulez thinks that it had gone occasionally in the
lecture concerning making by oneself since the '70 age. When will obtaining
time become unnecessary (Except whether to have a mind to do) though he makes
it a character?
On the other hand..nowadays..Japan..Boulez..relate..remark..quality..low..one..hold..
problem..fact..deliberate..examination..lack..score..analysis..know..level..Japanese..
reference..Boulez..writing..material..hit..thing..originate..think..writer..
responsibility..think.
I feel either by finding an appropriate explanation for general even of the side
that can talk when correlating with other arts about the music of the 20th century
including Boulez or should talk the situation nowadays that should be supplemented
for myself because it is rare (He is type that avoids an immediate reference, and
because understanding is not easy alone though there is a Mr. word that Boulez dusts
of course) is indescribably inconvenient.
- 265 ：7分74秒：2023/07/14(金) 20:37:56.20 ID:zXWzoA6yu
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