英語をひたすら聞き取り書き取る　ディクテーション

1 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 13:21:29.13 ID:5gGviDyS.net

スレッドの内容については、>>2 から >>5 あたりを見よ。

2 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 13:30:15.91 ID:5gGviDyS.net

このスレッドは、英語によるドキュメンタリー、ドラマ、映画、ニュースなど、ありとあらゆる
英語のビデオや録音を【ただひたすら】聞き取り、書き取る（つまりディクテーション）する
ことを主たる目的とする。

英語の聴き取りやドラマ・洋画などによる英語の勉強についてのスレッドは、かつて
たくさん運営されてきた。しかしそこでのやり取りにおいては、実際の聴き取りや
書き取りの結果や途中経過を見せ合うことはほとんどなかった。それどころか、
書き取りをしようものなら、「長文がうざい」とか「どうせスクリプトをネットから
拾ってここにコピーしただけだろう？」と嫌味を言われる。

ここでは、ネット上にスクリプトがあっても、わざとそれを見ないで、あくまで自分の
力で聴き取り、書き取ることを目的とする。もちろん、ネット上にスクリプトが
ないものをここで書き取るのが最もよいだろうが、そううまくもいかない。第一、
本当に聴き取ったり書き取ったりする価値のある素晴らしい英語ビデオや録音は、
すでにネイティブたちがそれに感動して、ぜひともそれをみんなに紹介したいと
考えるため、さっさと誰かがスクリプトを作ってしまう。

したがって、ここでは、すでにスクリプトがあっても気にしない。それどころか、
ネイティブがすでにスクリプトを作ってしまっているということは、それだけその
録音やビデオの内容が素晴らしいということを意味するので、余計に
それを聞きとったり書き取ったりしようという意欲が湧くではないかと考えるものである。

3 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 13:35:36.99 ID:5gGviDyS.net

僕は、このスレが今日までなかなか立てることができなかったため、仕方なく別のスレで
お邪魔して、書き取りをしていた。

　　http://yomogi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1449405532/6-129

上記のスレの前スレでも、やはり書き取りをしていた。

さらには、3年前の年末から年始にかけて2週間ほど、毎日 12 時間くらいかけて、YouTube 上に
その当時にあった Virginia Woolf 関係のドキュメンタリーすべてと、Virginia
Woolf 原作の小説に基づく2本の映画とのすべて（全部でおそらくは5時間分くらいの
ビデオ）を聴き取り、書き取った。少なくともその当時は、これらのビデオのスクリプトは
ネット上にはなかったらしい。探しても、僕には見つからなかった。仮に見つかったとしても、
気にしないで書き取った。不完全でもいいから僕自身が聴き取り、僕自身が書き取ることに
よって練習になればよいのだから、ともかくやってみた。その結果をすべて、
2ちゃんねるの文学板にある

　　　ヴァージニア・ウルフ（29番から152番まで）
　　　　　http://toro.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/book/1356090422/29-152

ここのスレにて発表した。名無しの僕だから、本当に僕がやったのかどうか、あるいは
僕が何かインチキしているのだろうとかいう疑惑を持ってくれて大いに結構だ。
どうせ信じてはくれないだろうし、信じてくれなくても、僕にとってはどうでもよい。
僕自身は、僕がこれを聴き取って書き取ったのだということを知っているので、それで
十分だ。

4 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 13:43:25.21 ID:5gGviDyS.net

というわけで、このスレでは、【なるべく】雑談はやめてほしい。誰が美男美女だとか、
どの役者はどんな事件に巻き込まれたとかいうことは、どうでもいい。そういう雑談は、
他のリスニング関係や英語のドラマ・洋画関係のスレで常に展開されているし、
本格的な雑談については、「雑談しようよ」というスレにて毎日毎日、展開されている。

ここでは、【なるべく】聴き取って書き取るだけに専念する。もしその周辺の
話をするときでも、できる限り聴き取りや書き取りに直接に関係する話題だけに
絞る。ここは、真摯（しんし）に英語を学ぶ者だけが集うスレッドである。

英語のニュースやドキュメンタリーならけっこう聴き取れるようになるまで
さほど苦労はしないが、ドラマはけっこう難しく、さらに映画となると
ダントツに難しくなり、さらには戦争もの・ギャングものの映画となると、
最高に聴き取りが難しい。

それに果敢に取り組むにあたっては、
頑ななまでの真摯な態度が必要だ。メンヘラ一歩手前になるまで
これに取り組む覚悟のある者だけが、最終的にこういうものを
聴き取れるようになるだろうと信ずる。もしこんなスレッドに
俺以外の誰もアクセスしなかったら、それはそれでよい。
俺はたった一人でこのスレに書き込みを続ける。どうか
下らない横槍や荒らしが入らないことを切に願うものである。

5 ：777 ◆TFWBMdHdF7zL ：2015/12/15(火) 14:19:09.71 ID:YPT6i7O0.net

これの 0:26 How's it, Kirby? から 1:58 Hubba hubba までディクテ出来る？
因みに俺は無理(50%程度しか分からん)。
これはかなり古いTVドラマだからスクリプトは（少なくともネットに）ないはず。

COMBAT! s.2 ep.3: "Masquerade" (1963)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QmrrD7hY4

6 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 15:12:40.14 ID:5gGviDyS.net

>>5
COMBAT! s.2 ep.3: "Masquerade" (1963) -- 0:26 - 1:58 までの書き取り
　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QmrrD7hY4&t=26s

777 でさえ50% なんだから、俺もおんなじようなもんだろう。俺の方がダメかもしれ
ん。ともかくやってみる。まずは、荒削りの一回目。あとでこれを推敲する。

How is it, Kirby? Oh, stopped bleeding all right. Hey, ??? the nightmare the ??? ??? three
inches ??? Italian aid. It would be good for ??? Hey, you never know. I ??? section ?? I
guess ??? Paris. Ah, okay, Kirby. Next time I ??? grenade, you're on your own, buddy.
Okay, okay, that's a deal. (ジープがやってくる) Hey. ??? Sergeant. We have an
important prisoner ??? Italian. Can you direct this? I have a time ??? road aways.
Maybe we could drop him off there. No ???, serge. *** to the top. Huh, and you right
along with it. Right? Huh. I told you we've been working on the road about a line. Well,
that's see ??? Corporal. 594th. Who just pulling forth from the, uh.... All right, corporal.
Yes, sir. Ah, lieutenant opportunity it's down the road down the village maybe they can
tell the ??? Thank you, sergeant. Hey, lieutenant, sir, uh, you can ??? maybe you can
drop me your platoon. Say, I can recked up back there and, uh.... Hey, Kirby. Hey, what
do you say, buddy, huh? Hub-bah-bah!

7 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 15:27:26.17 ID:5gGviDyS.net

>>5
【書き取り Version 2】　COMBAT! s.2 ep.3: "Masquerade" (1963) -- 0:26 - 1:58

How is it, Kirby? Ah, it stopped bleeding all right. Hey, ??? the nightmare the way.
There was a lot of three inches ??? battalion aid. It would be good for a couple of days.
Hey, you never know. I go back and maybe affection to set in. I guess I'll go all the way
back to Paris. Ah, okay, Kirby. Next time I cohn grenade, you're on your own, buddy.
Okay, okay, that's a deal. (ジープがやってくる) Hey, what do you got there? Sergeant, ...
we have an important prisoner to take to battalion. Can you direct this? I have time,
lieutenant, but the company down the road aways. Maybe we could drop him off there.
No sump, serge. Choke is a Kirby right to the top. Huh, and you right along with it.
Right? Huh. I told you we've been working the wrong part of the line. Well, let's see,
Corporal. 594th. Who just pulling forth from the, uh.... All right, Corporal.
Yes, sir. Ah, lieutenant opportunity it's down the road down the village maybe they can
tell the ??? Thank you, sergeant. Hey, lieutenant, sir, uh, you can go down the way.
Maybe you can drop me your platoon. Say, I can get wrecked up back there and, uh....
Hey, Kirby. Hey, what do you say, buddy, huh? Hub-bah-bah!

8 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 15:58:56.83 ID:5gGviDyS.net

【Version 3 (これで降参)】　COMBAT! s.2 ep.3: "Masquerade" (1963) -- 0:26 - 1:58

How is it, Kirby? Ah, it stopped bleeding already. Hey, ??? the nightmare the way for.
There was a lot of three inches out of ??? set in ??? battalion aid. It would be good for a
couple of days. Hey, you never know. I go back there and maybe infection to set in. I
guess I'll go all the way back to Paris. Ah, okay, Kirby. Next time a crown grenade drops
by, you're on your own, buddy. Okay, okay, that's a deal. (ジープがやってくる) Hey,
Colonel. Hey, what do you got there? Sergeant, ... we have an important prisoner to
take to battalion. Can you direct this? I have time, lieutenant, but the company down
the road aways. Maybe we could drop him off there. No sump, serge. (The) choke is a
crop curvy right to the top. Huh, and you ride along with it. Right? Huh. I told you we've
been working the wrong part of the line. Well, let's see yourself, Corporal. 594th. Who
just pulling forth from the, uh.... All right, Corporal. Yes, sir. Ah, Lieutenant Oppotune
is down the road about a quarter of a mile down the village. Maybe they can tell where
the battalion is. Thank you, sergeant. Hey, lieutenant, sir, uh, you can go down the way.
Maybe you can drop me your platoon. Say, I can get wrecked up back there and, uh....
Hey, Kirby. Hey, what do you say, buddy, huh? Hub-bah-bah!

9 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 20:50:05.78 ID:5gGviDyS.net

(1) Marlon Brando Interview 1973 (Pt 1 of 6) -- 4m00 のところから書き取り（会話がゆっくり）
　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAPDQ5MlLxE&t=4m

I guess, uh, "How are you?" would be as good as anything in opening it. I'm kind of
weary. Are you wiped out from the jet trip? Yeah, I am. Yeah. I appreciate it. You've ???
miles, you have been, uh, covering to get here. You would delay ??? gastly story. It's nice
of you to come and put up with it all. Uh, I'm so self-conscious. Ha-ha. I don't know
what to do. Because we spoke on the, ha-ha, we spoke on the phone for over six hours,
and a lot of it was about what neither of us can stand about this kind of program—to
the point of, I don't know ha-ha... how to avoid all this stuff. Will you help me as we
move? Well, I think the, uh, I had a special, uh, treat because you allowed me to come
into your life and did describe this background of the young boy in Nebraska, which I
think is worth telling for about 20 minutes. --- (2) に続く

10 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 20:51:00.54 ID:5gGviDyS.net

(2) Would you mind if I go into all that? I don't remember any. I've certainly forgotten it
all. Uh, anyway, I, uh, have you seen any good movies lately? "Super Rich Shadow"? Oh,
this was supposed to be in my dressing room. Well, that's part of the, uh, that's really,
that's really part of the commercial. Uh, where was I? Do you go to the movies? Come to
think of it. Once in a while. Yeah. I'll tell you what happened. We... we talked on the
phone, and at one point in the conversation, you reeled off about seven or eight things
either observed about me watching the show. Uh, about how I sometimes don't like
people and pretend that I do and vice versa. And, and about a dozen more, and they
were so uncanny and on the nose that I decided I could never work again. And, ha-ha,
now I feel it. Would you like a glass of water? (笑いどころ) A bug just flew out of my
glass. I know. I'm... terribly embarrassed. Does he start to pour the water, a bug flew
out. Probably a critic. (笑い) Anyway. Let me ask you an obligatory question to get that
out of the way right now. If there is any time I get into things that you don't want to talk
about, uh, give me a signal. --- (3) に続く

11 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 20:51:36.69 ID:5gGviDyS.net

(3) ??? cheeks. Picture of you. ??? Fine. If you had that Academy Awards night to do over
again, would you do any of that differently? Well, uh, I don't think so. No. I felt that, uh,
that there was an opportunity for..., since the American Indian hasn't been able to hear
his voice heard, or have his voice heard, anywhere in the history of the United States,
uh, I felt that it was a marvelous opportunity for an Indian to be able to voice his
opinion to 85 million people. I guess that was the number. And, uh, I felt that he had a
right to in view of what Hollywood has done to him. And, uh, I was embarrassed for
Shah Sheen. She wasn't able to say what she intended to say. And, uh, I was just
stressed that people should have booed, and whistled, and stampeded. People perhaps
directed it at myself. They should have at least had the courtesy to listen to her. But, uh,
I think she did very well and I was, uh, I was, I was very glad that she did have what
opportunity she had to say what she did. And, uh.... Why didn't she get to read this
entire statement as you planned it? Well, I think that they felt that, that it wasn't
appropriate. --- (4) に続く

12 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 20:52:15.15 ID:5gGviDyS.net

(4) And, uh, I actually don't know. I think they just didn't want her there. They didn't
want the, uh, evening interrupted with that particular note. And, from their insular
point of view, I felt that perhaps they... they had a point. But, uh, I don't think that
people, uh, generally realize what the motion picture industry has done to the
American Indian—as a matter of fact, all ethnic groups, uh, all minorities, all
nonwhites. And, uh, people just simply don't realize. They just took it for granted that
that's the way. People going to be presented, and these clichés were just going to be
perpetuated. And, uh, so when someone makes a protest or some kind, no, please don't
present the Chinese this way, or please, I mean, on this network every night—well,
perhaps not every night—but you can see ??? rendition or human behavior, uh, the, uh,
leering Filipino house boy or the wily Japanese, or the kook or the gook, and uh, the
idiot black man, and the stupid Indian. And it just goes on and on and on. And people
actually don't realize how deeply.... (この番組の続きも、YouTube 上で発表されている)

13 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/15(火) 20:57:15.44 ID:oRA1AZg7.net

チラシの裏にでも書いてろハゲ

14 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/16(水) 00:05:57.13 ID:pAnEnk7e.net

英語名文
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0V4K7SdvDU

15 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/16(水) 12:51:20.43 ID:K+tDrGYn.net

Combat! というドラマが聴き取りにくいのは、もしかして 1963 年という古い時代の
録音だから音質が劣化してしまっていること、そしてそれにもかかわらずけっこう
早口であること、そして戦争ものだから語彙になかなか僕らが馴染めないということが
あるかもしれない。それが本当かどうかは別として、これが聴き取れれば、
現代の映画なんてへっちゃらという感じがする。

僕の今の感想では、この Combat! や Apocalypse Now などの戦争ものが
最高に聴き取りが難しく、それに比べたら、（昔は聴き取れなかった）The Godfather
でさえ聴き取りやすい。Apocalypse Now なんて、戦争中の轟音の中で怒鳴りまくって
いるから余計に聴き取りにくい。The Godfather も怒鳴り散らすけど、戦争ものに
比べると、静かな場面がはるかに多くなる。

今日から、もし気力と時間があれば、昨日と同じ Combat! のビデオのうち、
3m45s のところから聞き取りを再開したいと思う。

　　　COMBAT! s.2 ep.3: "Masquerade" (1963) --- 3m45 から
　　　　　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QmrrD7hY4&t=3m45s

16 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/19(土) 06:52:22.59 ID:Ymjx4VOi.net

>>5 の Combat の videoclip については、別のスレで誰かが見つけたページである
　　　http://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/34227/how-is-it-kirby
にてネイティブらしき人が詳しい解説をしてくれているが、さらに subzin でも、次のような
transcript を載せている。ただしこれが本当に正しいかどうかはわからない。（続く）

17 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/19(土) 06:53:22.65 ID:Ymjx4VOi.net

>>5
Combat! :: Masquerade (1963)

00:00:26 How is it Kirby?
00:00:28 Aah. It stopped bleeding already.
00:00:30 It's working out to knock me out of the away pool.
00:00:32 You gotta louse. Three inches under and sent to Battalion aid.
00:00:35 Be good for a couple of days.
00:00:38 Hey. You never know. I go back there maybe an infection will set in. I can get sent all the way back to Paris.
00:00:43 Ah, Okay Kirby.
00:00:45 Next time a kraut grenade drops by, you're on your own buddy.
00:00:47 Okay, okay. That's a deal.
00:01:09 Hey. Hey there.
00:01:13 Hey. What's happening?
00:01:16 Sergeant.
00:01:18 We have an important prisoner to take to Battalion. Can you direct us?
00:01:21 It's not Battalion Lieutenant, but our Company's down the road a ways. Maybe you could drop him off there.
00:01:25 No soap Sarge.
00:01:26 Joker's a kraut colonel. He goes right to the top.
00:01:28 Heh, And you right along with him. Right? Huh.
00:01:31 I told you we been working the wrong part of the line.
00:01:35 What outfit you from Corporal?
00:01:36 594th. We were just pulling back when the, uh.
00:01:39 Alright Corporal.
00:01:40 Yes Sir.
00:01:42 Well, Lieutenant. Our platoon is down the road about a quarter mile in a village. Maybe, they can tell you where the Battalion is.
00:01:47 Thank you, Sergeant.
00:01:48 Hey, Lieutenant Sir. Uh. If you're going that way maybe you could drop me at Platoon.
00:01:52 Say. I kinda got racked up back there and I.
00:01:53 Hey Kirby.
00:01:56 Whadda you say buddy, huh. A baa baa.
　　　http://www.subzin.com/quotes/S1730767a2c/Combat%21/Masquerade

18 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/19(土) 10:37:40.77 ID:1S7aqmbN.net

ディクテーションはくたくたになるけど一番いいわな

19 ：777 ◆TFWBMdHdF7zL ：2015/12/19(土) 11:45:55.43 ID:LDKtrI36.net

これはどうよ？

IBM TV Commercials on Energy Efficiency/Green (Tree Huggers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSNFE6eUjfY

20 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/19(土) 12:04:00.90 ID:gW+6breh.net

>>19
Where do I sign？

21 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/19(土) 14:25:53.68 ID:Ymjx4VOi.net

>>19
細部が聴き取れない。やっぱ、俺はまだまだダメだなと感じる。

IBM TV Commercials on Energy Efficiency/Green (Tree Huggers)
　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSNFE6eUjfY

Are we going to be a green proposal? Great. It's fine—just fine.
I'm sure it'll make people feel real good about the company. You
should be able to go with the tree-huggers too. The folk says I
report too ??? nola. So let me ask you. Where would I sign this?
This friend could cut our energy costs by 40 percent. Forty percent.
And we spent 18 million dollars on energy last year. ??? percent?
??? just sign it. (歌声)

22 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/19(土) 15:37:06.61 ID:Ymjx4VOi.net

Combat って、本当に難しいな。

COMBAT! s.2 ep.3: "Masquerade" (1963) --- 3m45 から
　　　　　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QmrrD7hY4&t=3m45s
You ??? power you want to. Do you know where we are? Yes, I know exactly where we
are. I just don't know what the stupid Americans keep their battalion headquarters.
And it's not likely we'll find that German map. Well, then destroy it. Burn it. So ??? ???
americana. I'm sorry. I'll remember to speak in English. Yes, you do that, lieutenant.
(クレジットが流れる) Kirk, what about that crop colonel rhyme? Here's wounded GI
making it on his own. I'm not kidding, lieutenant. They've got a manual some place.
There's a colonel's got a ride. Don't matter what happens to them or what side ???
happen to ??? You get ride. Okay. (負傷した James Coburn が気絶している) Take it
easy. Take it easy. You all right? Unless you don't mind. Come on. Colonel. Not dead.
Oh, not yet. Just give him a couple of minutes, he will be. Colonel. You have to get to
see ??? >>> get something just as easy.... ??? shut up and get me a hand. You turn, little
guy. (横倒しになった車を立てる) The lieutenant's going to be okay. Lieutenant
Camstack, Corporal Canger. You all right? Lieutenant Camstack? Lieutenant
Camstack, it's Corporal Canger. You all right? Lieutenant Camstack? It's Corporal
Canger. What happened? Get a mind, lieutenant, to be all thrown clear. ??? with us all
lucky. Is he alive? Yeah. Hey, serge, can you, uh, have you meant pick up some letter?
Crawl back to battalion? Hey, give him a hand. I have some letter. Thanks a lot,
serge. A scratch means a lot to him. Lost two men ??? You've got a ??? platoon to
battalion aid.

23 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/19(土) 18:29:28.49 ID:gW+6breh.net

>>21
俺には、Where would I sign this? の部分は、Why will I sign this? と聞こえて、
??? percent? の部分は、Where do I sign？ と聞こえる。
その他の部分は聞き流した。

24 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/19(土) 20:20:24.32 ID:Ymjx4VOi.net

>>21　この IBM のコマーシャルの台詞を試しに検索してみたら、見つかった。

I've been looking over your green proposal...
-Great.
It's fine, just fine.
I'm sure it'll make people feel real good about the company,
should go over big with the tree huggers, too.
See, the folks that I report to--they don't eat granola.
Let me ask you.
Why would I sign this?
This plan could cut our energy costs by 40%.
-40%.
And we spent 18 million dollars on energy last year.

♪ [Optimistic Voices from The Wizard of Oz] ♪
Where do I sign?
♪ You're out of the woods ♪
Just sign here.
♪ You're out of the dark
You're out of the night ♪
♪ Step into the sun
Step into the light ♪

25 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/19(土) 20:41:10.08 ID:Ymjx4VOi.net

>>21 >>24
この IBM のコマーシャルに流れてくる音楽は、次のような有名な曲だったとは知らなかった。

The Wizard of Oz - "Optimistic Voices" (You're Out of the Dark) w/lyrics
　　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nq34mISKUo&t=10s

その歌詞
　　http://www.metrolyrics.com/optimistic-voices-lyrics-wizard-of-oz.html

26 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/20(日) 14:43:32.29 ID:9RoF6FBG.net

IBM のコマーシャルにしても Combat にしても、transcript がどこかで見つかるということが
わかってしまった。こうなると、それなりに有名な video の transcript は必ず見つかると
言っていいだろう。それなら、最初から、好きな映画の味わい深い台詞を聴き取る練習をしたい。
テレビ番組よりもドキュメンタリーよりも、ダントツに映画は完成度が高い。

The Godfather - I Command This Family
　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO30QrsoHUU

Don't ever again give that kind of order—not while I'm alive. Understand? You were too
sick to make a decision. I got a go-ahead from Neary. I got a go-ahead from Connie.
Connie? Yeah. It was the right decision, Uncle Mike. It was the wrong decision. I
command this family, right or wrong. It was not what I wanted. Do you understand? Yes.
Come on, Michael. Yes. But, Vincent, help me to my bed. I want to talk to
you—alone—for a minute. Uh, you know, I always felt responsible for you. You know,
your father, my brother, we were opposites. We would fight and argue. But I'd never
doubted his love. He'd do anything for me, but his temper—too much—clouded his
reason. I don't want you to make that mistake. Hmmm? He, too, got away with women.
Vincent. So I.... What are you doing to my daughter? What are you doing with her? It's
too dangerous. Hear me? OK. Vincenzo, when they come, they'll come to what you love.

27 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/20(日) 14:45:04.41 ID:9RoF6FBG.net

The Godfather - Never Let Anyone Know What You're Thinking
　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to2UAXI_fh0

You're good, Vincent. Grazie. They're all done, so pretty much wiped out. But once they
survive, (they) make deals with Joey Zaza. Autabarro? He'll survive. He has one of his
daughters now in Staten Island. He says he's going to retire in Sicily. Joe Zaza would
never pull something like this without a back. He's just muscle. He's an enforcer. He's
nothing. He doesn't have the whip for the helicopter attack. He doesn't even have the
ambition to wipe out the whole commission. Not enough balls. I say we hit back and
take Zaza out. Never let anyone know what you're thinking. Now let's get out. Let's get
the message to Joe Zaza. I respect what he's done. The new overthrows the old. It's
natural. How can you do business with this guy? I'm a businessman. First, foremost, I
want no further conflicts with him. You can tell him from me he can live or he can die.
Vincent, will you shut up!? That's it. Joey Zaza—he kept me on this one. Just when I
thought I was out, they pulled me back in. Uh, Jule and me, as not yet. Showed his face.
Michael! Michael! No! I don't know what he's ??? (Al Pacino が喘ぐ) I've got ??? Run,
run! Vincent! Get me ??? ??? Bullshit! Shit! Fuck! ??? Fredo! Fredo!

28 ：777 ◆TFWBMdHdF7zL ：2015/12/20(日) 19:34:51.22 ID:KfjuM/56.net

>>26
>IBM のコマーシャルにしても Combat にしても、transcript がどこかで見つかるということが
>わかってしまった。

そりゃ【たまたま】だろ。
その transcript が正しいという保障もない。

例えば、これは全然違うだろ。
>>17
00:00:30 It's working out to knock me out of the away pool.

29 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/20(日) 20:36:42.80 ID:9RoF6FBG.net

The Godfather の trilogy を20年くらい前に一度だけ通して見たが、前もって
小説を読んだわけでもなく、誰かからその plot を教えてもらったわけでもなく、
日本語字幕も英語字幕も何もなしで見たが、その時の僕の理解度はおそらく
30% くらいだったろうと思う。映画の場合、ろくに聴き取れていなくても画面さえ
見ていれば何となく plot がわかったような気になるので、英語そのものが
30% くらいしか聴き取れていなかったけど、plot はだいたいわかったような
気がした。でも、細部が聴き取れなかったので、この作品の深みは味わえなかった。

今回、この数日間で再びこの trilogy を通して見た。今回もやはり予備知識は
なく、もちろん日本語字幕も英語字幕も見ないで、耳だけを頼りに何とか最後まで
見た。今回は、20年前と比べてかなり僕の英語力が高まったせいか、あるいは
この作品を見るのが2度目だったからか知らないけど、ともかくかなり深く
味わえた。とはいえ、それでも、この trilogy を途中で止めないで
一度だけ通して見ただけだから、おそらく聴き取りの理解度は 50% か 60% くらい
でしかなかったろうと思う。

しかし、ギャングものを聴き取るのは昔からものすごく
苦手で、plot さえ追いかけるのも苦しかったから、今回は余裕を持って plot を
理解し、細部にわたってもそれなりに理解できたから、うれしかった。

数日前に、Apocalypse Now も一度だけ見た。もちろん日本語字幕も英語字幕も
見ていない。この作品は深い作品として誉れが高いけど、残念ながらその深みを
今回は味わえなかった。もう少し修行しなおして、再び挑戦したいと思っている。

30 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/20(日) 20:43:19.94 ID:9RoF6FBG.net

The Godfather の trilogy は（ファミリーものや恋愛ものに比べると段違いに）
全体的に聴き取りにくいけど、特に聴き取りにくいのは Part 1 における Marlon Brando
のつぶれた声の台詞だ。これを20年ほど前に聴いたときは、ほとんど聞き取れなかった
ような気がする。しかし今回、けっこう聴き取れたので、これもうれしかった。
やはり、読む力や書く力などについてもそうだけど、聴き取りの力も、たったの数年で
急激に伸びるものではなく、20年ほどがむしゃらに頑張ってきたからこそ、やっと
今ごろになって「少しだけ伸びた」と感じられるのだという感慨を深くしている。

31 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/20(日) 20:59:23.36 ID:9RoF6FBG.net

聞き取りの力を高めるには、洋書をたくさん読むことも大事だが、小説やノンフィクションを
読むだけでなく、映画やテレビドラマについての英文の批評文をたくさん読むことも、
モチベーションを維持するのに非常に役に立つ。以前、15年間ほどの映画三昧、ドラマ三昧
のあいだに読みちらした映画関係の本があれからもどんどん改訂されてきたが、
今回、13年ぶりくらいに最新版を何冊か買い求めた。

(1) 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die (英語) ハードカバー – 2015/10
　　Ian Haydn Smith (寄稿), Steven Jay Schneider (1,000 ページくらいある)

(2) The Film Encyclopedia 7e: The Complete Guide to Film and
　　the Film Industry (英語) ペーパーバック – 2012/5/1
　　Ephraim Katz (著), Ronald Dean Nolen (著) (1,700 ページほど)

(3) Leonard Maltin's 2015 Movie Guide (Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide)
　　(英語) ペーパーバック – 2014/9/2
　　(1,700 ページほどある）
(4) "Time Out" Film Guide 2011
　　（これも 1,400 ページくらいある）

ただしこの4冊のうち、すでに届いたのは (1) だけであり、あとの3冊はまだ届いていない。
昔はこれ以外にもいろいろと並べて、あっちこっちを開いていた。すべて事典とか
ガイドブックなので、その場その場で気になった部分だけを拾い読みしていたに過ぎないが、
とても勉強になった。

なお、映画関係の本はどれもこれも（特にアメリカのものは）
読みやすいが、(4) の Time Out という会社の本だけは例外。これはイギリスのもので、
アメリカと違ってイギリスの本は何でも難しいものが多いけど、これは特に難しい。
文体が凝っている。内容も濃い。スイスイとは読めない。

32 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/20(日) 21:09:17.05 ID:9RoF6FBG.net

ところで、僕はこれからも少しずつ YouTube 上の2分から4分くらいの短い videoclip
の台詞を書き取っていく。ただ、僕が書き取るものは有名な映画の videoclip だから
すでにどこかに必ず transcript がある。

777 でもその他の人でもいいので、もしも
transcript が見つかりそうにない適当な videoclip で、しかもできれば2分以内くらいの
ものがあれば紹介してほしい。ぜひ書き取りたいと思う。どこかの会社のコマーシャルでも
映画でもドラマでもドキュメンタリーでも素人のおしゃべり (vlog) でもいい。ただし、
nonnative によるものは除く。さらに、ネイティブだけども訛りが強すぎるものを
書き取る自信はないので、それも除く。

33 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/20(日) 21:50:12.28 ID:9RoF6FBG.net

The Godfather - Call Yourself Vincent Corleone
　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUYOkEr0T1o
Give me a chance to redeem myself. And I will sin no more. You look pale. Bad news.
Tell me right away. It's not just a bad backing deal. It's not just this. What guys? Casey.
He controls all of them. Autabarro. The archbishop. Other people higher up, too, maybe.
Secret unknown. They're running things. Hmmm. I'm in their way. Yeah. They hired a
professional assassin to kill you. A Sicilian. I don't know his name. Hmmm? They say
he never fails. Then no one is safe. Even no pope is safe - in danger. We still have time.
We can prevent this. I tried. Vincent, I tried. Then keep everything from coming to this.
No, it's not possible. Not in this world. Give me the order. You won't be able to go back.
You'll be like me. Good. All my life I wanted, you know, I wanted a family. Well, I don't
want that. I want the power to preserve the family. I'm asking for the order. It's done.
Because I can't do it any more. It doesn't matter. Vincent knows what to do. Come on
outside. Take a rest. And don't think about it. All I do is think about it. I'm your son.
Command me all things. Give up my daughter. That's the price you pay—for the life
you choose. Nephew, from this moment on, call yourself Vincent Corleone. Vincenzo.
Don Corleone. Don Vincenzo Corleone.

34 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/20(日) 22:57:56.53 ID:m5r8rnBr.net

長文さんは何年くらいで英語聞けるようになったの？

35 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/21(月) 06:28:15.74 ID:+XPCqxDz.net

>>34
もっと具体的に言ってくれる？

36 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/21(月) 07:13:22.00 ID:+XPCqxDz.net

"The Godfather 2" Best Scene HD
　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znL8uYvohCw

What's up? We('ve) got company, uh? (イタリア語での台詞) Che se ce? Ce ??? Corleone.
Corleone? ??? Fara spettare. ??? aspetta mezza ora. Ma.... Ce cosa con ma? Don
Corleone! I wish you had told me you were coming. I could have prepared something for
you. I didn't want you to know I was coming. You heard what happened to my home?
Michael, I almost died myself. I was also relieved. In my home!!! In my bedroom, where
my wife sleeps, where my children come and play with their toys. In my home. I want
you to help me take my revenge. Michael, anything. What can I do? Settle these
troubles with those other brothers. Michael, I don't understand. I don't... look, I don't
have the brains for big deals. But this is a straight thing. And Hyman Roth in Miami.
He's backing up with those son-of-a-bitches. I know he is. Then why? Why do you ask
me to lie down to them, Mike? It was Hyman Roth that tried to have me killed. I know
it was him. But Jesus Christ, Mike! Jesus Christ! Let's hit them all. Let's hit them all
now, while we've got the muscle. Ah, this used to be my father's old study. It's changed.
I remember there used to be.... A big desk was here. I remember when I was a kid,
Frank, I had to be very quiet when I was playing here. I was very happy that this house
never went to strangers. First Clemenza took it over. Now you. My father taught me
many things here. He taught me in this room. He taught me: keep your friends close,
put your enemies closer. Now if Hyman Roth sees that I entered to see this thing and
the result of others' favor, he's going to think his relationship with me is still good.
Agabid (イタリア語?). Gabid. That's what I want him to think. I want him to completely
relaxed and confident in our friendship. Then I'll be able to find out who the traitor in
my family was.

37 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/21(月) 09:44:45.55 ID:lLDhsWSQ.net

ワッツアップって言ってますか？なんかもう ワッサにしか聞こえない…

38 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/21(月) 10:27:50.45 ID:+XPCqxDz.net

>>37
What's up? は Wassup? とか Wussup? とかいうふうに書いている場合さえある。
ということは、ネイティブも最初から [wɑsʌp] とか [wʌsʌp] というふうに崩して
発音している人が多いらしいことがわかる。

What's the matter? も同じ。きちんとそのように発音している人は少ない。
What's a matter? とか Wassa matter? というふうに書いてあるときさえある。
たとえば The Godfather の中で Al Pacino は他の登場人物に比べるとかなり
教養が高くてきれいな発音をする人物として登場しているが、それでも
これを [wɑtsəmætər] というふうに発音している。

さらに、What's that? については、Wazzat? と小説に書いてあるときさえある。
そのような表記は、Catcher in the Rye を書いた Salinger による
Seven Stories とか何とかいう小説の中に出てきた。だからネイティブも、
[wɑzæt] とか [wɑzæʔ] というふうにしか発音していないらしいということがわかる。

このように、聴き取り練習にあたっては、聴くばかりではなく、たくさん読む必要がある。
たくさん読めば、前後に聴き取れないことがあっても、その空白を脳内で補充できる
ようになる。さらには、書き言葉の中でも、しゃべり言葉の崩れた発音を忠実に
表記してくれていることがあって、とても参考になる。特に参考になるのは、漫画。
Snoopy の漫画でも何でもいいが、がんがん読んでいると、崩れた発音を
そのまま表記してくれているところによく出っくわす。

39 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/21(月) 11:06:54.42 ID:yTwOF6Gu.net

>>38
その人固有の訛りとかを書いて、小説中の登場人物の個性を引き立ててるんじゃないの？
Snoopy の漫画だと幼児の発音を書いてるとか。

40 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/21(月) 11:12:07.54 ID:+XPCqxDz.net

>>39
もちろんそうだよ。「そうではない」とは僕は一度も書いていない。

41 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/21(月) 11:25:29.40 ID:+XPCqxDz.net

"The Godfather 3" Best Scene HD　書き取り
　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPV8QTd7H7Q

I have a problem. And I want to find out if it is my problem or your problem. Joe, your
business is your business. I have no interests or percentages from it. I'm out. Good.
Then it's my problem. Michael, you know Vincent Manzini. Sonny's boy. How're you
doing, Mr. Corleone? How're you doing? I'm doing good. How're you doing? Good body.
Oh, you like it? Yeah, how you sneak in. You trust for it. So... what's the trouble
between you and Mr. Joe Zaza? Just trouble. I'll take care of it. It's foolish of you.
Foolish of *me*!? It's a little foolish of this guy, don't you think? Right? Right! Just like
your father. Vincent, Mr. Joe Zaza now owns what used to be the Corleone family
business in New York. Hah. Out of the kindness of his heart, he gave you a job in his
family. Contrary to my advice you took the job. I offered you something better in the
legitimate world. You turned me down. Now, you both come to me with this bad blood.
And what do you expect me to do? Am I a gangster? No, you're not a gangster. That was
the toughest neighborhood. Now it's Joey Zaza runs it like a disgrace. That's what the
women.... That's the past, Connie. I'm in the territory of my talent. (The) Commission
gave it to me. And you approved. Yes. Uncle Mike, I'm not able to party. I'm not here to
ask your kind of help. I'm not ??? kill this bastard. He's the one who leads the house. So
kill him. What does this all have to do with me? Well, he's going on behind your back,
saying "Fuck Michael Corleone" all the time. That's it. That's one thing that has to do
with you, right? （続く）

42 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/21(月) 11:26:18.56 ID:+XPCqxDz.net

>>41 からの続き
Say it to his face one time. Say it to his face one time. Mr. Corleone, all
bastards are liars. Shakespeare wrote poems about them. What has this got to do with
it? What the hell has this got? Joey, *if* there's some guy running around this city,
saying "Fuck Michael Corleone," what do we do with a piece of shit like that? He's a
fucking dog. Well? Yes, it's true. If anyone would say such a thing, he would not be a
friend - he would be a dog. My interests don't conflict with Mr. Joe Zaza's. Well,
your .interests now conflict with Mr. Joe Zaza's, Uncle Michael. Planted.(???) He needs
your support, Michael. Don't let me work for this guy, Uncle Michael. Let me come work
for you. For me!? Yeah. That's why. Tough guy? I don't need tough guys. I need more
lawyers. Since we have no conflicts, no debts, I accept your tribute. I wish you well.
Vincent, make your peace with Mr. Joe Zaza. Go on. (イタリア語) Bastardo! (耳を噛む)
Christ's sakes! What the hell is the matter with you? Get him out of here! Hey! Jesus
Christ! Uncle Mike, I told you it wasn't the right time for this ??? I know you're into
banks in Wall Street. But everyone knows they have the last word at the Supreme
Court. All I want to do is protect you from these guys. (このあたりの Andy Garcia によ
るイタリア系移民の子孫に特有な訛りが面白い。Rocky に出てくる Sylvester Stallone
の発音にそっくり) And your lawyers can't do that. You can. Yeah, I can do that. And
why should I be afraid of Joe Zaza? He knows the stuff right up to the Commission,
Uncle Mike. I'd say you make him that at the right order. I'd take care of it. You'd take
care of it. Yeah. Maybe you should, uh, come with me, for a few weeks. See what
happens. Okay. See if you learn. I know you will. We'll talk about your future. I won't
let you down. （終わり）

43 ：名無しさん＠英語勉強中：2015/12/21(月) 13:01:27.31 ID:+XPCqxDz.net

$The Godfather Part 2 Moe Greene
　　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zfGdG79taE

My sixth sense tells me your brother Fredo brought a bag full of money. Where is it?
(Are) you pulling out? Just want to... just want to wait. How do you feel? A little. I'd give
four million just to be able to take a piss without hurting. Who had Frank Pentangeli
killed? The Rosato brothers. I know. But who gave the go-ahead? I know *I* didn't.
There was this kid I grew up with. He was younger than me. So he looked up to me, you
know. We get our first work together. Worked away out of the street. Things were good.
We made the most of it. You were in Prohibition. We ran the last ??? in Canada. Afraid of
fortune. Your father too. As much as anyone, I loved her and trusted her. Later on, he
had an idea. To build a city out of a desert stopover for GIs and a way to the West Coast.
That kid's name was Moe Greene. And the city he invented was Las Vegas. This was a
great man - a man of vision and guts. And there isn't even a plaque or a signpost or a
statue of him in that town. Someone put a bullet through his eye. No one knows who
gave the order. When I heard it, I wasn't angry. I knew Moe. I knew he was headstrong,
talking loud, saying stupid things. So when he turned up dead, I let it go. And I said to
myself, "This is the business we've chosen." I didn't ask who gave the order. Because it
had nothing to do with business. (Put) two million in a bag in your room. I'm going in
to take a nap. When I wake, (if) there's money on the table, I'll know I have a partner.
(If) there isn't, I'll know I don't.